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Episode 67: Disability and Music with Dean-Nash

Speaker 2 (0s): Yeah, no, it's my pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for having me, man. This is, this is really cool. I love the, I love the graphics that you have come up at the beginning of these as well, and they're really, they're really cool. It was awesome. 

Yeah. Well, that's a, that's a big, that's a big question. Hey, so I think, I dunno. I, I really, I get asked a lot sort of what leads, what led me to music and, you know, depending on the day, it kind of depends on the answer that I give. Right. Like it it's, I just sort of always loved it. Like I always loved the idea of, I was always singing. Like that was, that was always a thing for me. Hello, Patricia, but yeah, no, I've, I've always been, always been singing. 

And then I think once I started taking it seriously was when a lot of my friends were getting into, you know, they'll play in cricket and they'll play in football and they'll playing soccer. And for a little while, I would also try to play cricket and play football and play soccer. But, you know, after a while it just, it stopped being very viable for me. Like I was nowhere near as good at it. And so like, music was a thing that I could, you know, it was a, it was just something that made me feel capable and a way that I could, I suppose. 

Yeah, it was a, it was an outlet, I think, I think for me for a while, and then I just got like intoxicated with the idea of performing and then a little bit later on, it was more about the art of storytelling that really captivated me. And then I guess, yeah, having a disability influences my creative process in like a bunch of different ways, right? Like there's the technical aspect of it in which as a musician who only really has the, the movement in, in, in one hand and one finger that limits my playing a little bit. 

So I've had to be quite creative when it comes to how I approached playing and, and piano was pretty much all I got. Like, I can't pick up a guitar, not that there's anything wrong with the piano, but even then like chord shapings and stuff, you know, different. So I think that influences the type of music that I create, but I think on a lesser or not on a less lesser that's, I think in a different way as well, an aspect to disability that I think gets overlooked a little bit. 

Cause it's like an invisible side of it is, is the fatigue when it comes to physical disability, like the, the, the, so when it comes to like creating, I think, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm quiet, you know, my purse is on a slow and because of that, it's introspective and because it's slow ineffective, it gets, you know, I don't know. I think it gives me a, a really interesting perspective in tech on the things that I write, if that wasn't pure ramble-y 

Speaker 1 (5m 4s): Yeah, <inaudible> fine. Cheers. 


Speaker 2 (5m 35s): Oh yeah. Right. Influences are so varied. Honestly. They're incredibly incredibly varied. I, I am, I'm just, just a fan of music and just a real music node, you know? So I, I, you know, I adore artists, slack, Damien Ross is, is a big influence in terms of when it comes to lack, lyricists think Damien rice and John plaque to lyricist that I had my massively, you know, the, the way that, the way that when it comes to artists like John Mayer, the way that John Mayer will, you know, there's such a complexity to the arrangements of his music, but it's so understated that practically still feels acoustic now to how big the arrangement is. 


And I think that's incredible and the way that he manages to tie messages throughout songs, and really like tie tie an album together based on like one little tiny section of his life, there've been points in my life where like, I'll listen to a John Mayer album and be like, well, this, this, this song was me like his, his album room for squares. I heard that when I was in uni and I was like, and that, that is all about like growing into adulthood and transitions out of youth and, and trying to figure out what your place in the world is at still such a young and naive age. 


That's why I found that song at that point. And, and well, that album at that point, and I was like, wow. And then I think as John May has gotten older and I've gotten older, like the more stuff that he releases, the more I kind of resonate with, like that, that I'm a massive music nerd. I'm obsessed with musical theater and take a lot of influence on that as well. I suppose, you know, again, being a storyteller is first and foremost for me, and the way that people kind of connect emotion and melody is, is huge. 


Who could I collaborate with? That's so huge. There's so many, I think at the moment, just because of the first one that pops into my head and it might not necessarily, I might regret it. They might think of someone else later. Like, oh, I should've said that, but at the moment, all I can think of is Lin Manuel Miranda who are, you know, into the Heights and Hamilton and, and a slew of other incredible, incredible projects just to sit down and, and write and just kind of learn his process, I think would be one of the most valuable things ever. 

Yeah right. Oh, 

Speaker 1 (9m 28s): And I guess <inaudible> to <inaudible>. 

Speaker 2 (9m 48s): Yeah. So see, I, I kind of, I'm quite lucky in the sense that personally, my accessibility isn't that inhibited, I always play, I always play in groups. So I mean, if I was playing solo in places, I think carrying massive amounts of gear in and out of venues would be a hard slog. I remember I used to play these venues in, in Darlinghurst with giant staircases, leading into them and even carrying a little bit of gear. By the time I started playing the gig, I was like wrecked, you know, and that was a younger man's game. 

I don't even think I could do that anymore, but when it comes to accessibility and venues, I maybe the last few years I've been well last couple of years, I think I've been a little bit more conscious of that. And I am picky when it comes to my venues when I get a chance to be. And I, I try to, I try to go for more accessible venues. Like I just, I just don't like the idea of, of playing places where a huge group of, of friends and people who would like support my art that I'm entirely grateful for can actually come to the show. 

And I think, I think the industry has a lot to answer for when it comes to accessibility. I think the art sector, you know, is, is it's getting there, but I don't think it's always being particularly mindful of that. And so it is, it is remarkably difficult to find accessible arts venues. And it shouldn't be that that shouldn't be a thing. So as much as I can, I try to find accessible venues to be playing in. 

Speaker 1 (11m 30s): Oh, showing shit, no way you put two. 

Speaker 2 (12m 1s): Yeah, no, absolutely. Absolutely. I think, yeah, I think it's really important as creators to be, to be, you know, replanted down and paving paving the way I think it's, I think it's really important, you know, to be, you know, standing, standing in line with, you know, just because I can, I can, you know, struggle to, to, to get my gear into, into an accessible and to an inaccessible venue and I can still play the show. 

You know, I know that that it's a moral gray area. Right. Like I will. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I dunno. I, I just feel like that if, if you don't draw attention to something, then, then you're not, you know, as important to be part of the fight, you know, I think that's, I think that's it. I think we identify well, society is built on the things that we, that we see the art that we digest, whether it be on stage or whether it be on film and at the moment, for the most part, what we see is a very narrow view of, of society on those stages and in those films. 

And so I think if you, you know, if as, as a creator, you're, you're trying to, to, to, if you're standing up for a particular message now, you know, you're, you're shedding light to it. If you're, if you're seen as, as performing a certain way and only performing in a certain way and drawing attention to a problem, then the problem is, you know, hopefully going to be fixed. But if you, if you ignore, if you ignore an issue, you know? Yeah. 

Yeah. That's a good, that's a good question. Look, I think, I think there are, I mean, there's obviously differences between between music and acting, but I think the important thing is that what's similar between them. I've I've, you know, people have always sort of said to me that like, oh, you know, which do you prefer, like you refer music or do you prefer acting or like, which comes first. So what do you love more? And the answer is like equally. I like it equally because I hope I didn't just step on your next question by the way, but it's it's because it all comes from the same place. 

It's all, it's all the, it's all storytelling, you know, that's what it is. It's it's storytelling. And I think, I think for me, storytelling and advocacy absolutely go hand in hand because what is advocacy, but sharing our stories and sharing our stories authentically. And so I think that's, I think that's it. I think that's how we do it, man. I think we just tell our stories. 

Speaker 1 (15m 35s): <inaudible>


Speaker 2 (16m 60s): Yeah, yeah, no, that's it. I think, I mean, I'm pretty lucky all things considered, not because I didn't when I was younger, but because I had never seen, you know, I'd never seen, I'd never seen a person with a disability in, you know, gainfully employed as an actor, like in, in, in film or in theater. And so I just didn't see it as an avenue for myself and I kind of stumbled into it a little bit later. 

And then once I realized that it's not always about, it's really nice when opportunities exist, but when they don't exist, like you, you can, you can forge them. You know, you can, you can stop that fight if there's no door, you know, make a door, a bulge one down. If you have to, I think like that's, that's sort of where we're at. So hopefully you said earlier the next generational generation after don't don't have to as as much 

Speaker 1 (17m 57s): <inaudible>. Well, Joe. 

Speaker 2 (18m 25s): Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's good. That's good. I'm going to have to use that. That's Absolutely. Of course. Of course I wouldn't. I wouldn't dream of not that's. Yeah, that's fantastic. 

But you're spot on that's that's it Yeah. So I, I, I recently releasing recently released a, a six track EPE, like a mini album, which is streaming everywhere. 

So anywhere that you get your music from, whether it be Spotify or apple music or YouTube, or, you know, Deezer or iHeart radio, any of them, you can find it there by just searching the Nash. The AP is called in the autumn. I nearly forgot the name of my own album. There that's awkward, but the album is called in the autumn binding Nash. It's streaming everywhere. I would love it. Love it. If you would, if you'd give it a listen, I'm also, I'm also working at the moment. Well, I had the immense pleasure of being a writer on a musical theater project called the breaths in between by 11 o'clock theater. 

And they're on Instagram, in which 10 writers from diverse backgrounds, whether they be LGBT to our class, whether they be people of color, whether they be disabled, you know, it was, it was all these diverse writers in a room. And we, we wrote this amazing musical, well, there's all these amazing songs. And the show is now being cast and, and a showing in Melbourne, hopefully fingers crossed COVID willing in November. So it's just a beautiful piece of work with a beautiful cost and a beautiful creative team. 

And so, yeah, 11 o'clock theater is them and yeah, they are, they are definitely worth the follow. They are wonderful. 

Speaker 1 (20m 56s): <inaudible> to <inaudible>. 

Speaker 2 (21m 7s): Yeah, absolutely. I will. I will definitely do that. I will. I'll shoot you a message with, with all the information and we'll definitely keep chatting about it. 

Speaker 1 (21m 23s): <inaudible> and in June I learn 

Speaker 4 (21m 54s): From the GoPro. Can we just get a clap in there? I'm tramped about you the other night for the first time. And while You were dancing you kitchen, like we always used to do justice knew He was <inaudible> money. 

He's probably not as funny, but he makes you laugh all the same in yours. He was smiling. I was having senior. Well, he was just CEO. 

Well, no, <inaudible> how you now How's your dog. How's your family these days. They still give me <inaudible> happy. 

See you smiling and happy. Happy. See you smiling. <inaudible> I am truly happy. 

Truly happy memory. 

Speaker 1 (25m 22s): They now for <inaudible> <inaudible> <inaudible> 

Speaker 2 (25m 43s): It was, Oh, you've got, what are you playing though? It's it was, yeah, it was a pleasure. It's an absolute pleasure to be here. Thank you so much to bring him on. It's just good to have a chat. You know, it's been, it's been so long, so it was good to, good to chat about this. 

Speaker 1 (26m 9s): <inaudible> <inaudible> to you when you yeah, absolutely. 

I'll spread the word. Oh yeah. <inaudible> <inaudible> <inaudible> <inaudible> <inaudible> Y <inaudible>. 

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Episode 65: Staying Connected while Staying Apart | Maintaining Social Connections in Lockdown

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Episode 64: An interview with Jessica Cox, an aeroplane pioneer pilot with no arms.

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Episode 63: Understanding lateral ableism

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Episode 62: Overcoming disability discrimination

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Episode 61: Independent Assessments and disability in the media

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Episode 54: Disability and Employment

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Episode 54: Disability and Employment

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Episode 43: What access and inclusion truly means?

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Episode 80: Respecting and Protecting People with Disabilities

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Speaker 1 (0s): My daughter, a support worker after class on Wednesdays who loves to cook and is into salsa. Dancing.

Speaker 2 (20s): Mabel is the website that’s revolutionizing disability support it lets you find and choose PayPal, offering the support that you want. And because we’re online, it’s easy and affordable. Find your paypal@mabel.com that I use.

Speaker 3 (38s): Hello everybody. And welcome to crew chat. Your weekly podcast for everything disability. Hey today I have with me is Johnson, Shaw, Evie, and myself everyday. How are we today for us?

Speaker 4 (55s): Yeah, we’re good. Thank you, David. How are you today?

Speaker 3 (59s): I’m fine. Thank you. What are we going to be talking about today?

Speaker 4 (1m 3s): Oh, today we’re going to be to going to bed. I got people out there using people with disability to their advantage and also people with disability out there. I guess, taking people for granted and taking advantage of this.

Speaker 3 (1m 26s): So w we’re talking about people who take people with disability and their disability for advantage. So there are, There is got disability taking the disability for granted to, for, for vantage.

Speaker 4 (1m 51s): That’s all. We got a call from Beth saying and I, everyone. So Beth, thank you for joining us today. CripChat it’s all right. Yeah. Anybody’s been in a situation where they’ve been taken for granted

Speaker 3 (2m 11s): And no one takes, they will take for granted sometimes where they feel that they’re allowed to. Then it’s, there’s nothing wrong. We’re not done a discriminate.

Speaker 4 (2m 25s): Yeah. Yeah. so David, have you ever been in that situation, I guess where you’ve been taken advantage of?

Speaker 3 (2m 37s): You know what, at the end I might be blind, but some people can push in front of you and you won’t be able to see them.

Speaker 4 (2m 54s): Yeah. In that situation, how would you respond that situation?

Speaker 3 (3m 0s): Well, sometimes you can’t tell. So a lot of times I probably wouldn’t be able to talk.

Speaker 4 (3m 9s): Oh yeah. That’s good. That’s where the arrow

Speaker 5 (3m 16s): Jonathan

Speaker 4 (3m 59s): Oh yeah. We do have a comment from Beth. She feels she’s been granted or life. She finds a very depressing, but now she chooses to take a job. Sometimes she feels sadness. Thank you for sharing. I Beth. Thank you. Awesome. It’s awesome to see you take control, however yeah. Where

Speaker 3 (4m 27s): Just stand up for ourselves because some people think they can take advantage of you. Anyone say nothing, but when you make it say they back off,

Speaker 4 (4m 39s): That’s what it is. Diverse. It’s all about you not having that voice, being your own voice, standing up for what you believe in. Yeah, there, there are many like situations where people would take care of people with disability, for granted and that use of, for their advantage.

Speaker 3 (5m 2s): But sometimes people like to use L disabled codes.

Speaker 4 (5m 8s): Why a free

Speaker 3 (5m 10s): Staff to get, to get, to get, to get good parking and longer parking.

Speaker 4 (5m 17s): Oh yeah. That’s sometimes people,

Speaker 3 (5m 19s): Some people park in disabled parking that that has disabled because, and as I happened to so many times they fell someone that doesn’t have a disabled parking sticker in the disabled blind. Fuck.

Speaker 4 (5m 33s): Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It’s happened many times. So many times saying that David. Yeah, it’s been it’s hard many times. And how does that make you feel, David?

Speaker 3 (5m 47s): All right. In my age, it really, really aggravates me because sometimes we can’t get parking spots, but because someone else has taken it and some people are, I think some people fake the disabilities so I can get eight several cards.

Speaker 4 (6m 10s): Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? How does that make you feel?

Speaker 3 (6m 26s): Making you feel angry.

Speaker 4 (7m 35s): Yeah, that’s true. And I go there and also

Speaker 3 (7m 40s): Can you repeat what he said?

Speaker 4 (7m 43s): It just, you know, before that I, you know, take advantage of others, I guess it makes you feel kind of undervalued kind of mentioned feeling like you’re not worth being a human,

Speaker 3 (8m 6s): You know, you’re not, you’re not, you’re not very varied in their eyes.

Speaker 4 (8m 13s): That’s right. Your not wanting them.

Speaker 3 (8m 17s): Yeah.

Speaker 4 (8m 18s): It’s just like the liberal respect is not there. People need to be respected.

Speaker 3 (8m 27s): Exactly. And certainly like they say in the Bible first will be last and last will be first.

Speaker 4 (8m 35s): Yeah. Yeah. And as well as other signs as well, everybody needs to be valued. We’re all human beings. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (8m 47s): Well respected. Whether we have a disability or no disability, we’re not better than others and not better than us.

Speaker 4 (8m 57s): Sometimes our people disability take advantage of the situation

Speaker 3 (9m 5s): They do Happen. Shouldn’t happen.

Speaker 4 (9m 13s): Yeah. Thank you for those great Beth. So Beth and grace, are they? Yeah. People, you know, they considered the discipline privilege and then take advantage of this situation.

Speaker 3 (9m 30s): Yeah.

Speaker 4 (9m 32s): But you got to be careful. You gotta be careful with that.

Speaker 3 (9m 35s): ’cause sometimes, sometimes people wore like they’ve got disability, but, and someone listen to me and they say, thank you. Is there any say, thank you. Yeah. At least say thank you.

Speaker 4 (9m 52s): Yeah, that’s right. That’s right. Yeah. Judson

Speaker 3 (9m 56s): And the knowledge someone’s respect, respect. And then allow me to go first. I’ll go before you. It’s not your privilege to, to go first. It’s alright. They’ve let you in. Thanks to anyone. Can you tell us what you think has made you feel uncomfortable in ways others have treated you or, or attempted to do with the disability and taking advantage?

Oh,

Speaker 5 (10m 35s): John

Speaker 4 (11m 3s): So we go, we got a comment from a jewelry. She said, I have one. How are you all? I’ve been taken advantage four months of my life and for granted and it’s distressing at times. But as I got older, I’m able to stand up for myself and be more assertive and educate others, using my voice and experience valued, respected. We’re on, you got on your journey.

You gotta keep fighting for what you believe in. And that’s amazing stuff you’re doing there. Julie, thank you very much for sharing. It’s been awesome. What are your thoughts on that? You know, just standing up for yourself,

Speaker 3 (11m 54s): Say standing up for yourself is it’s courage at first people, disability shy, but if you don’t stand up for yourself, you’re only going to be shot early. A lot. Courage is comes through to experience. And once you get older or get through the experiences, you start to stand up for yourself through building your courage.

Speaker 4 (12m 33s): Now

Speaker 3 (12m 33s): That’s all going to build up courage and stand up for ourselves and also not take advantage of our disabilities Because just like, just like others, others don’t like it. Do you weigh that? Like then take advantage of us. So it goes both ways We want to play on that.

But if they offer it, then let them pay.

Speaker 4 (13m 11s): Yeah. And it’s always there. Good David, thank you though. It’s also good to talk to other papers though. I bet what mentored. She said. That’s why I just died things about my life and avoid people. Cause I’m scared that people walk and take advantage. That’s why dad spent time with big bull, but I’m very happy to be in this group and make new friends. And that’s awesome.

It’s also nice slide drive for up more. And we’re here to support you in every way, that we can.

Speaker 3 (13m 51s): where he is. We’re here to support you.

Speaker 4 (13m 55s): Yeah. Thank you very much for sharing. Grab Beth. And those are just Julia and the others. Keep them coming. They’re saying your thoughts. So I, in saying that David, you have any final thoughts on this issue.

Speaker 3 (14m 14s): One more final thoughts. We all have to treat each other. Like you want to be treated and not, not take advantage of others or take advantage of your disability. But if others offer or allow you to do things, they then accepted, but then sit and make people feel sorry for you.

And then, then they can gonna, then you ever do it all time. Make them feel sorry for you. They gonna, they’re gonna resist at the end.

Speaker 4 (14m 59s): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff, David. Thank you for sharing. What are your thoughts on that? Anything you want to say?

Speaker 5 (15m 14s): to to treat.

I know to breathe. Hey

Speaker 4 (16m 2s): Exactly. It’s good stuff. Thank you for sharing Jada. I guess I it’s all about respect. You need the union. You need to respect it as a disability. You need to be respected and not taken advantage of

Speaker 3 (16m 21s): To respect yourself before any others can.

Speaker 4 (16m 26s): Exactly. Exactly. And that’s awesome. I think the most valuable thing is respect and restricting others the way you want them to respect you, but insane. Thank you everyone. For joining in, you had been watching CripChat your weekly podcasts on everything disability. So Porter that Rambo Australian Disability.

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